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General grabber at tires 4runner11/13/2023 I refused as I was not willing to buy any more tires without guaranteed reimbursement. I mentioned their warranty and then they offered 100% on the tires if I bought new ones and they inspected and saw an issue. I then contacted General and they started with the same 50% offer. Tire Rack wouldn’t do anything for me either in terms of a credit toward other tires. General told Tire Rack they would give me 50% credit toward the two faulty tires (if I bought another 2 tires from them). I reached back out to Tire Rack who contacted General. The ride was improved but still drove horribly, especially for a significant portion of the highway speed range. Also, they are very familiar with these tires as they sell and install them. They showed me on the balancing machine that two of them (one which was already replaced) was out of round due to what they said were belt issues…you could see that the tread of the tire did not spin cleanly and the machine was shaking. I went to a local tire place with a great reputation to get another point of view and paid to get all 4 rebalanced. The tires were still not driving smoothly and showed balancing issues at various speed ranges. I paid up front for the remounting and was reimbursed several weeks later after multiple follow-ups. I got on the phone with Tire Rack and they sent out two replacements which they said they would road force ahead of sending. With the initial mounting and balancing (on brand new 17” TRD rims), the Toyota dealer that installed them indicated that two were out of round based on road force balancing. The experience I have had with these General Grabber ATX tires has easily been the worst I’ve ever had with any tire purchase, and I have bought a lot of tires for a lot of vehicles. Excited to see how they do in the summer and in muck. (?maybe also the lower psi - not sure if someone might comment on that?) I think I made the right decision on P rated with respect to ride quality. I'm getting bad mileage but assuming that's because I tromp the throttle generally. I have them at 33 PSI currently and they have a nice wide body and tread profile that gives it a more aggressive look than the stock tires. And in 90 percent of slippery conditions the 4runner takes off like a bat out of hell in 4wd and I have no problem with quick stopping. I have been on decent inclines in 4 inch snow and had no problem with traction in 4wd. These circumstances might have slightly better performance with winter or ice tires but would probably require a similar level of traction. It does slide on pure ice eg at stop signs or if I take a corner too fast but I think this is to be expected. Vs winter tires I really like a all terrains as a middle ground because I can drift around and not worry about the soft tire compound melting off. I certainly feel confident in winter conditions. I never drove a truck before getting the 4runner and these are the only tires I've used. Been winter here for a few months we've had wet snow, ice and I just got back from a ride in light Blizzard conditions -17C. I think I've got enough time in on them to give an opinion. Thanks to everyone who provided some insight on these tires. We kept it in 4wd and cruised right thru. During our trip we saw lots of cars stuck and spun out. I’m impressed by how well they did in the harsh conditions. I’ve had a chance to put some decent miles during a road trip from Denver to Phoenix over the Thanksgiving weekend where we experienced heavy snow through all of New Mexico on i25 and i40. She says they feel a lot better in the snow and icy roads and they are a lot quieter than the old coopers. So far she’s had 2 good snow days in Denver with the new tires and I’m yet to get a call from her panicked that she’s going to slide off the road. I figured some of it is her driving and some of it was the tires. This is my wife’s ride and her old tires made her feel like she was on skates when it snowed. These tires have seen most conditions now: snow, rain, ice, dry, in town and open highway. I went with the SL’s since it’s a daily driver and most of its time is spent on road. I’ve had mine installed for about 2500 miles now. I figured I’d chime in since this thread helped me pull the trigger on getting the ATX’s after my Cooper AT3’s we’re nearing the end of the road.
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